lundi 28 septembre 2009
samedi 26 septembre 2009
vendredi 25 septembre 2009
Insultes sur Internet
Patrick et moi, quand on joue aux échecs, on insulte souvent nos adversaires après avoir gagné. Ça peut avoir l'air immature, mais c'est rendu la norme (en tout cas sur FICS), alors tu as vraiment le choix entre être poli et te faire insulter, OU insulter quand tu gagnes, te faire insulter quand tu perds. (Avec le temps, on apprend à "ignorer" son adversaire avant que la partie ne se termine, de telle sorte qu'on évite habilement le problème de se faire insulter, et qu'on reste avec un win-win situation).
Mais bon... tout ça pour dire que Patrick a décidé de répertorier quelques insultes que nous avons lancées au cours des mois précédents, et je vous les offre ce soir. La plupart peuvent être comprises par tout le monde selon moi, mais probablement que certaines seront nébuleuses, mais bon.
Deux sections: celles de Patrick, puis les miennes. (Soit dit en passant, on insulte seulement quand on est connecté anonymement -- pas à avoir trop peur des représailles).
Celles de Patrick
anon4 says: U MISSED YOUR CHANCE FOR AN ADVANTAGE IN THE OPENING PAL
anon1 says: why do you keep on castling on opposite wings if you're rated 1000? why don't you just resign on move 1 while you're at it
[after 12 moves:] Your opponent offers you a draw. Use "draw" to accept. The offer is valid until you make a move.
anon3 says: you know you're in for some pain don't you
anon15 says: lolol
anon15 says: what was THAT
anon15 says: what did u think of my move? 15. ...Rxc3!! (double exclamation point)
Your previous opponent has left.
anon6 says: uve been exposed to real chess there
anon6 says: ure welcome
anon7 says: LOL!!!!11!!11!
anon17 says: I'm all about tactics
Your previous opponent has left.
anon1 says: nice game pal
anon1 says: you really tried to kick my ass there
anon18 says: nice opening there pal, where did u learn all those knight moves
anon5 says: I'm not even sorry
Your previous opponent has left.
anon8 says: I can't believe you took that many rematches
Patrizsche says: :))))
Balthazar says: +noplay
Patrizsche says: 5-min doesn't take noplays
Patrizsche says: lol
Patrizsche says: so we might just meet again sometime! cheers!
anon8 says: time to resign
anon8 says: just let go.. free yourself
anon1 says: a little flagging action there hmm?
anon5 says: lol
anon5 says: 50 seconds to my 2:10 to lose a piece
anon2: very very nice pawn grabbing there, both when you lost your queen and got mated :)
anon10 says: I would pay not to have ur bishop lol
anon14 says: u losing this game again I think.. from this position at least
[a little later] anon14 says: yes
[after the game] anon14 says: gg!!
anon14 says: nice flagging try there by the way.. it's sorry that it didn't work.. what's ironic, lol, is that I finished with more than twice as much time as you did
anon4 says: I think we can safely say you learned something there
anon9 says: hahahahaah
anon9 says: i bet u regret ur bluff now
anon12 says: hahaha
anon12 says: hard to let go uh? you could have resigned a thousand moves ago
anon3 says: it was somewhat close.. 21 moves
anon4 says: my gosh
anon4 says: I played like those in the skies
anon18 says: you had a choice between getting flagged or getting mated and you made a choice.. in life, always make a choice, I always say
anon9 says: you almost premoved that last mistake
anon10 says: I had to finish you off brutally like that, I'm sorry but it's part of my values.. I like my values actually
anon8 says: a little flagging, a little piece dropping.. so just a normal day on the whole hmm
[after refusing an abort request on move 1 and proceeding to lose the game]
anon1 says: :)))))))))
anon1 says: no abort ?? ;)00000
anon4 says: I played very well, thanks
anon2 says: this was very short, thanks gg
anon12 says: bad opening choice
anon12 says: Ne4, questionable move, so I'll annotate it with: Ne4?
anon9 says: LOL!!!!!
anon9 says: rematch?
anon5 says: nice pawn moves
anon5 says: now look at me win this game
anon14: your loss shed an interesting light on my victory
anon2 says: it bums me out that I had to force you into awkward resignation like that
anon1 says: my tactical skills are interesting to say the least
anon2 says: you were lucky with your knights there, but thank god I regained my composure
anon8 says: not looking good lol
anon8 says: you made snap decisions
anon2 says: nice pawn structure, hey maybe next time you get to keep it
anon1 says: two trapped knights lol
anon1 says: one down one to go
anon4 says: 8 moves
anon4 says: it seems that every game was a challenge to see how fast you could lose
anon3 says: you should have pushed some more pawns, maybe you would have won that way, *shrug*
You decline the match offer from SynapticGap.
anon3 says: thanks, one is enough for me there :)
anon11 says: wow that SUCKED
GuestFTSC(U) says: id rather lose than draw a piece of #$%& like you
GuestFTSC(U) says: you fukin jew
GuestMBXG(U) says: and you think that's not fine with me?
anon4 says: no resign button?
anon9 says: no resign button = no rematch
anon5 says: you'Re so good!!
anon5 says: you're definitely underrated... you're a solid 1345
anon14 says: flagging is not a good strategy in that type of game
anon2 says: you know, I have been eating rice krispies while beating you
[after trying to flag in a completely drawn position and eventually losing on time himself:]
anon8 says: lol
anon8 says: u should have offered a draw instead of flagging
anon7 says: no resign button? or no respect? lol
anon9 says: I really can't tel you're 1400... oh wait no, you played h3 and g4 on the kingside
anon1 says: no respect for those who can't resign
anon1 says: I had to destroy you, sorry
anon6 says: sweet jeeeeeeeesus.... you lost piece after piece after piece.. and on time!!
anon7 says: u got mated
anon7 says: nice pawn grab
anon1 says: trying to flag me ? me ?! LOL
anon3 says: u sure u a coach?
anon3 says: I wouldn't pay is all I'm saying
anon12 says: mister was playing all fast and quick at the beggining huh?
anon13 says: oh well, I'm trying to figure out something to tell you here, but quite honestly I'm speachless.. you got taught a valuable lesson here and I think that's what counts
anon1 says: I don't know if you remember, but I never lost to you with that opening
anon10 says: u sure u 2141 pal? u're a mate misser
anon2 says: oh ouch, OH
anon8 says: BURN
anon8 says: ouch, hmm?
anon8 says: it hurts to suck like that I guess
NippsyRusssel says: lucky?
anon8 says: lol, sure, call that luck if you want :)
NippsyRusssel says: don't confuse your luck with my skill #$%!!!
anon8 says: lol?! you lost dude, where are the skills in that? "I'm losing very well" ?!
anon2 says: long think bad think
anon10 says: sucks to be you
XxxASSASSINxxX tells you: u stink, ur game is wack, ho
XxxASSASSINxxX tells you: luck is not skill
anon4 says: lol, you lost to someone whose game is whack? what's that insult?!
anon7 says: well, I didn't know I'd be teaching today, but YOU GOT SCHOOLED
anon10 says: very nice attack there, took a while before you resigned but STILL, very nice handling of the losing position.. "keep on counterattacking", I always say
Your previous opponent has left.
anon13 says: LOL!!!
anon13 says: flagging operation was started but quickly aborted
anon4 says: generally I take the liberty to give a sentence or two to my opponent that sums up the game, but this one was so short I'm without resources
Les miennes
GuestMSZZ(U) says: nice opening
GuestMSZZ(U) says: do that everytime you can, you'll be as good as it gets
GuestCHSS(U) says: hmmm... i think it might have been drawn, you know
GuestCHSS(U) says: hadn't you played like an ass, i mean
GuestRMPL(U) says: you're good
GuestRMPL(U) says: in a not-good-enough-though way
GuestRBPL(U) says: a massacre
GuestBGQF(U) says: you were panicking... cute :)
spielegern(U) says: lol i play for fun
GuestYTWH(U) says: oh don't worry I didn't think you played professionally :)
GuestQPKJ(U) says: HAHA!!
GuestQPKJ(U) says: wow, that was pretty sad
GuestQPKJ(U) says: this is you during the game: "i win, i win, i win, i win, i win, oh god i lost how did that happen"
GuestKTNN(U) says: you've been schooled
GuestKTNN(U) says: you're welcome
kolonatus(U) says: i had mouse errors
GuestMLDL(U) says: i had a sandwich
GuestKPWP(U) says: *crunch* oops, sorry... i stepped all over you
GuestFDNN(U) says: 3-0
GuestFDNN(U) says: ain't no luck no more
GuestKLWF(U) says: HAHA!!hahaha hah aaa.... haaaahahaha!!1111!!
GuestBNWP(U) says: you could have resigned
GuestBNWP(U) says: but no... i had to wipe you instead
GuestBNWP(U) says: wipe you dry and clean
GuestNJDL(U) says: *ding* Oh, you're done!
GuestWSSP(U) says: my name is spelled C-A-R-N-A-G-E -- carnage.
GuestHSDT(U) says: i know what you're thinking... "gosh, he's so good"
GuestHSDT(U) says: well i know!
GuestSSPY(U) says: checkmate
GuestSSPY(U) says: nope... no turning back
GuestSSPY(U) says: once it's checkmate it's all over, you gotta move on
GuestSSPY(U) says: don't hang on to it, it's not worth it... just move on
GuestSSPY(U) says: just another failed attempt is all that is
GuestMJMH(U) says: ouch :S
GuestMJMH(U) says: nice try though
GuestPXKZ(U) says: you had to think for 10 minutes to play *that*?
GuestPXKZ(U) says: i could have blundered my queen using no time at all... but that's just how good i am
Seacrest(U) says: screw u
GuestVBRF(U) says: oh god my eyes, burning with disgust
GuestPLLV(U) says: what a lousy opening you have there
GuestPLLV(U) says: i'd say "work on it", but i mean, that would be bad advice... how about you just try another one?
GuestWWLF(U) says: oh
GuestWWLF(U) says: i was starting to think you didn't know how to resign
GuestWWLF(U) says: i was misled because of the way you kept playing in a hopeless position
GuestLJKP(U) says: i prevailed!
GuestMMWR(U) says: wow, sometimes i even impress myself
GuestMMWR(U) says: for instance, in our game, i achieved brilliant levels of play at times!
GuestWRFP(U) says: i played well, thanks for the game
GuestVBSL(U) says: who knew you'd get a valuable lesson on a Saturday, right? You got schooled.
GuestWFLG(U) says: i win
GuestWFLG(U) says: i sacrifice material, i get a huge positional advantage -- HUGE, and i win
GuestWFLG(U) says: surprised? not me
GuestBJRR(U) says: i know what you're thinking... "wow"
GuestJRTS(U) says: "nice opening"... lol just kidding
GuestLKWD(U) says: lol, your last finger note is ridiculous
GuestLKWD(U) says: i can't even figure out whether you're serious or being ironic
GuestMQKK(U) says: lol
GuestMQKK(U) says: nice opening, nice middlegame... lousy endgame
GuestMQKK(U) says: lousy lousy
paulbuchman tells you: by then the time trouble set in
paulbuchman tells you: thanks for the game
GuestMQKK(U) says: really, in a 1 0? you don't say
{Game 219 (GuestGSLW vs. GuestNVSF) GuestGSLW forfeits on time} 0-1 No ratings adjustment done.
GuestNVSF(U) says: oh god i didn't realize it was a 1 0... oops sorry, you* didn't realize
GuestKSFG(U) says: you started off good... it just so happens to be i'm incredible
[empty board except for 3 pawns:]
GuestLPDF(U) says: for a moment there i thought it was drawn with my three connected passed pawns
GuestQBSL(U) says: i spell DOOM
GuestPJSH(U) says: wake up and smell the doom
GuestMBWW(U) says: lol
GuestMBWW(U) says: "nice endgame skills"
GuestMBWW(U) says: how you got to such an acceptable position to a mess like that, I'll never know
GuestMBWW(U) says: but it sure was a matter of gradually sinking and stinking :)
GuestDNWX(U) says: lol
GuestDNWX(U) says: nice sacrifice
GuestDNWX(U) says: probably proud of it, and you should
Your previous opponent has left.
GuestWRTH(U) says: up a whole rook
GuestWRTH(U) says: see how i did it... just by playing good, seeing your mistakes and using them against you
GuestWRTH(U) says: that's what i call good chess
GuestQNTJ(U) says: lol
GuestQNTJ(U) says: not too good to hold on to your knights, right?
GuestQNTJ(U) says: right? am i right or am i right?
GuestTSWC(U) says: nice opening
GuestTSWC(U) says: don't work on it it's perfect... i can tell it's perfect by the way you got mated in 14 moves
GuestJZPY(U) says: see, that's where the "idiot" part comes in handy... idiot
GuestBPMM(U) says: you're welcome
GuestBPMM(U) says: people generally get paid for giving such valuable lessons
GuestNWPL(U) says: click click *BOOM*
GuestNWPL(U) says: YOU GO DOWN
GuestNMWS(U) says: you're my favorite brain-dead person in the whole world
GuestPWBB(U) says: i loved that queen move...
GuestPWBB(U) says: it was, hmmm... how to say it... gosh, there's so little polite words that would accurately describe how stupid it was :/
GuestKWRL(U) says: "oh i'm gonna PAWN STORM HIM!!! oh ... man, my queen :(("
GuestKWRL(U) says: HAHA... pathetic
GuestKWRL(U) says: "where did my queen go ?!?!!? ohhh !?!?"
Player "SuicideBeast" is censoring you.
GuestGHPS(U) says: checkmate
GuestGHPS(U) says: Qxg2#
GuestGHPS(U) says: by moving your knight you opened up my bishop's fierce attack to your g2 square, and I can use this immediately with the crushing Qxg2#, delivering checkmate at once.
GuestGHPS(U) says: good game.
GuestBTTS(U) says: lol
GuestBTTS(U) says: play slower next time, maybe you'll actually lose on time
GuestLWDD(U) says: i gotta say, i'm impressed
GuestLWDD(U) says: how you start up nice, and then you sink
GuestLWDD(U) says: i thought you'd hit bottom at some point, but the game apparently finished way too early
Mais bon... tout ça pour dire que Patrick a décidé de répertorier quelques insultes que nous avons lancées au cours des mois précédents, et je vous les offre ce soir. La plupart peuvent être comprises par tout le monde selon moi, mais probablement que certaines seront nébuleuses, mais bon.
Deux sections: celles de Patrick, puis les miennes. (Soit dit en passant, on insulte seulement quand on est connecté anonymement -- pas à avoir trop peur des représailles).
Celles de Patrick
anon4 says: U MISSED YOUR CHANCE FOR AN ADVANTAGE IN THE OPENING PAL
anon1 says: why do you keep on castling on opposite wings if you're rated 1000? why don't you just resign on move 1 while you're at it
[after 12 moves:] Your opponent offers you a draw. Use "draw" to accept. The offer is valid until you make a move.
anon3 says: you know you're in for some pain don't you
anon15 says: lolol
anon15 says: what was THAT
anon15 says: what did u think of my move? 15. ...Rxc3!! (double exclamation point)
Your previous opponent has left.
anon6 says: uve been exposed to real chess there
anon6 says: ure welcome
anon7 says: LOL!!!!11!!11!
anon17 says: I'm all about tactics
Your previous opponent has left.
anon1 says: nice game pal
anon1 says: you really tried to kick my ass there
anon18 says: nice opening there pal, where did u learn all those knight moves
anon5 says: I'm not even sorry
Your previous opponent has left.
anon8 says: I can't believe you took that many rematches
Patrizsche says: :))))
Balthazar says: +noplay
Patrizsche says: 5-min doesn't take noplays
Patrizsche says: lol
Patrizsche says: so we might just meet again sometime! cheers!
anon8 says: time to resign
anon8 says: just let go.. free yourself
anon1 says: a little flagging action there hmm?
anon5 says: lol
anon5 says: 50 seconds to my 2:10 to lose a piece
anon2: very very nice pawn grabbing there, both when you lost your queen and got mated :)
anon10 says: I would pay not to have ur bishop lol
anon14 says: u losing this game again I think.. from this position at least
[a little later] anon14 says: yes
[after the game] anon14 says: gg!!
anon14 says: nice flagging try there by the way.. it's sorry that it didn't work.. what's ironic, lol, is that I finished with more than twice as much time as you did
anon4 says: I think we can safely say you learned something there
anon9 says: hahahahaah
anon9 says: i bet u regret ur bluff now
anon12 says: hahaha
anon12 says: hard to let go uh? you could have resigned a thousand moves ago
anon3 says: it was somewhat close.. 21 moves
anon4 says: my gosh
anon4 says: I played like those in the skies
anon18 says: you had a choice between getting flagged or getting mated and you made a choice.. in life, always make a choice, I always say
anon9 says: you almost premoved that last mistake
anon10 says: I had to finish you off brutally like that, I'm sorry but it's part of my values.. I like my values actually
anon8 says: a little flagging, a little piece dropping.. so just a normal day on the whole hmm
[after refusing an abort request on move 1 and proceeding to lose the game]
anon1 says: :)))))))))
anon1 says: no abort ?? ;)00000
anon4 says: I played very well, thanks
anon2 says: this was very short, thanks gg
anon12 says: bad opening choice
anon12 says: Ne4, questionable move, so I'll annotate it with: Ne4?
anon9 says: LOL!!!!!
anon9 says: rematch?
anon5 says: nice pawn moves
anon5 says: now look at me win this game
anon14: your loss shed an interesting light on my victory
anon2 says: it bums me out that I had to force you into awkward resignation like that
anon1 says: my tactical skills are interesting to say the least
anon2 says: you were lucky with your knights there, but thank god I regained my composure
anon8 says: not looking good lol
anon8 says: you made snap decisions
anon2 says: nice pawn structure, hey maybe next time you get to keep it
anon1 says: two trapped knights lol
anon1 says: one down one to go
anon4 says: 8 moves
anon4 says: it seems that every game was a challenge to see how fast you could lose
anon3 says: you should have pushed some more pawns, maybe you would have won that way, *shrug*
You decline the match offer from SynapticGap.
anon3 says: thanks, one is enough for me there :)
anon11 says: wow that SUCKED
GuestFTSC(U) says: id rather lose than draw a piece of #$%& like you
GuestFTSC(U) says: you fukin jew
GuestMBXG(U) says: and you think that's not fine with me?
anon4 says: no resign button?
anon9 says: no resign button = no rematch
anon5 says: you'Re so good!!
anon5 says: you're definitely underrated... you're a solid 1345
anon14 says: flagging is not a good strategy in that type of game
anon2 says: you know, I have been eating rice krispies while beating you
[after trying to flag in a completely drawn position and eventually losing on time himself:]
anon8 says: lol
anon8 says: u should have offered a draw instead of flagging
anon7 says: no resign button? or no respect? lol
anon9 says: I really can't tel you're 1400... oh wait no, you played h3 and g4 on the kingside
anon1 says: no respect for those who can't resign
anon1 says: I had to destroy you, sorry
anon6 says: sweet jeeeeeeeesus.... you lost piece after piece after piece.. and on time!!
anon7 says: u got mated
anon7 says: nice pawn grab
anon1 says: trying to flag me ? me ?! LOL
anon3 says: u sure u a coach?
anon3 says: I wouldn't pay is all I'm saying
anon12 says: mister was playing all fast and quick at the beggining huh?
anon13 says: oh well, I'm trying to figure out something to tell you here, but quite honestly I'm speachless.. you got taught a valuable lesson here and I think that's what counts
anon1 says: I don't know if you remember, but I never lost to you with that opening
anon10 says: u sure u 2141 pal? u're a mate misser
anon2 says: oh ouch, OH
anon8 says: BURN
anon8 says: ouch, hmm?
anon8 says: it hurts to suck like that I guess
NippsyRusssel says: lucky?
anon8 says: lol, sure, call that luck if you want :)
NippsyRusssel says: don't confuse your luck with my skill #$%!!!
anon8 says: lol?! you lost dude, where are the skills in that? "I'm losing very well" ?!
anon2 says: long think bad think
anon10 says: sucks to be you
XxxASSASSINxxX tells you: u stink, ur game is wack, ho
XxxASSASSINxxX tells you: luck is not skill
anon4 says: lol, you lost to someone whose game is whack? what's that insult?!
anon7 says: well, I didn't know I'd be teaching today, but YOU GOT SCHOOLED
anon10 says: very nice attack there, took a while before you resigned but STILL, very nice handling of the losing position.. "keep on counterattacking", I always say
Your previous opponent has left.
anon13 says: LOL!!!
anon13 says: flagging operation was started but quickly aborted
anon4 says: generally I take the liberty to give a sentence or two to my opponent that sums up the game, but this one was so short I'm without resources
Les miennes
GuestMSZZ(U) says: nice opening
GuestMSZZ(U) says: do that everytime you can, you'll be as good as it gets
GuestCHSS(U) says: hmmm... i think it might have been drawn, you know
GuestCHSS(U) says: hadn't you played like an ass, i mean
GuestRMPL(U) says: you're good
GuestRMPL(U) says: in a not-good-enough-though way
GuestRBPL(U) says: a massacre
GuestBGQF(U) says: you were panicking... cute :)
spielegern(U) says: lol i play for fun
GuestYTWH(U) says: oh don't worry I didn't think you played professionally :)
GuestQPKJ(U) says: HAHA!!
GuestQPKJ(U) says: wow, that was pretty sad
GuestQPKJ(U) says: this is you during the game: "i win, i win, i win, i win, i win, oh god i lost how did that happen"
GuestKTNN(U) says: you've been schooled
GuestKTNN(U) says: you're welcome
kolonatus(U) says: i had mouse errors
GuestMLDL(U) says: i had a sandwich
GuestKPWP(U) says: *crunch* oops, sorry... i stepped all over you
GuestFDNN(U) says: 3-0
GuestFDNN(U) says: ain't no luck no more
GuestKLWF(U) says: HAHA!!hahaha hah aaa.... haaaahahaha!!1111!!
GuestBNWP(U) says: you could have resigned
GuestBNWP(U) says: but no... i had to wipe you instead
GuestBNWP(U) says: wipe you dry and clean
GuestNJDL(U) says: *ding* Oh, you're done!
GuestWSSP(U) says: my name is spelled C-A-R-N-A-G-E -- carnage.
GuestHSDT(U) says: i know what you're thinking... "gosh, he's so good"
GuestHSDT(U) says: well i know!
GuestSSPY(U) says: checkmate
GuestSSPY(U) says: nope... no turning back
GuestSSPY(U) says: once it's checkmate it's all over, you gotta move on
GuestSSPY(U) says: don't hang on to it, it's not worth it... just move on
GuestSSPY(U) says: just another failed attempt is all that is
GuestMJMH(U) says: ouch :S
GuestMJMH(U) says: nice try though
GuestPXKZ(U) says: you had to think for 10 minutes to play *that*?
GuestPXKZ(U) says: i could have blundered my queen using no time at all... but that's just how good i am
Seacrest(U) says: screw u
GuestVBRF(U) says: oh god my eyes, burning with disgust
GuestPLLV(U) says: what a lousy opening you have there
GuestPLLV(U) says: i'd say "work on it", but i mean, that would be bad advice... how about you just try another one?
GuestWWLF(U) says: oh
GuestWWLF(U) says: i was starting to think you didn't know how to resign
GuestWWLF(U) says: i was misled because of the way you kept playing in a hopeless position
GuestLJKP(U) says: i prevailed!
GuestMMWR(U) says: wow, sometimes i even impress myself
GuestMMWR(U) says: for instance, in our game, i achieved brilliant levels of play at times!
GuestWRFP(U) says: i played well, thanks for the game
GuestVBSL(U) says: who knew you'd get a valuable lesson on a Saturday, right? You got schooled.
GuestWFLG(U) says: i win
GuestWFLG(U) says: i sacrifice material, i get a huge positional advantage -- HUGE, and i win
GuestWFLG(U) says: surprised? not me
GuestBJRR(U) says: i know what you're thinking... "wow"
GuestJRTS(U) says: "nice opening"... lol just kidding
GuestLKWD(U) says: lol, your last finger note is ridiculous
GuestLKWD(U) says: i can't even figure out whether you're serious or being ironic
GuestMQKK(U) says: lol
GuestMQKK(U) says: nice opening, nice middlegame... lousy endgame
GuestMQKK(U) says: lousy lousy
paulbuchman tells you: by then the time trouble set in
paulbuchman tells you: thanks for the game
GuestMQKK(U) says: really, in a 1 0? you don't say
{Game 219 (GuestGSLW vs. GuestNVSF) GuestGSLW forfeits on time} 0-1 No ratings adjustment done.
GuestNVSF(U) says: oh god i didn't realize it was a 1 0... oops sorry, you* didn't realize
GuestKSFG(U) says: you started off good... it just so happens to be i'm incredible
[empty board except for 3 pawns:]
GuestLPDF(U) says: for a moment there i thought it was drawn with my three connected passed pawns
GuestQBSL(U) says: i spell DOOM
GuestPJSH(U) says: wake up and smell the doom
GuestMBWW(U) says: lol
GuestMBWW(U) says: "nice endgame skills"
GuestMBWW(U) says: how you got to such an acceptable position to a mess like that, I'll never know
GuestMBWW(U) says: but it sure was a matter of gradually sinking and stinking :)
GuestDNWX(U) says: lol
GuestDNWX(U) says: nice sacrifice
GuestDNWX(U) says: probably proud of it, and you should
Your previous opponent has left.
GuestWRTH(U) says: up a whole rook
GuestWRTH(U) says: see how i did it... just by playing good, seeing your mistakes and using them against you
GuestWRTH(U) says: that's what i call good chess
GuestQNTJ(U) says: lol
GuestQNTJ(U) says: not too good to hold on to your knights, right?
GuestQNTJ(U) says: right? am i right or am i right?
GuestTSWC(U) says: nice opening
GuestTSWC(U) says: don't work on it it's perfect... i can tell it's perfect by the way you got mated in 14 moves
GuestJZPY(U) says: see, that's where the "idiot" part comes in handy... idiot
GuestBPMM(U) says: you're welcome
GuestBPMM(U) says: people generally get paid for giving such valuable lessons
GuestNWPL(U) says: click click *BOOM*
GuestNWPL(U) says: YOU GO DOWN
GuestNMWS(U) says: you're my favorite brain-dead person in the whole world
GuestPWBB(U) says: i loved that queen move...
GuestPWBB(U) says: it was, hmmm... how to say it... gosh, there's so little polite words that would accurately describe how stupid it was :/
GuestKWRL(U) says: "oh i'm gonna PAWN STORM HIM!!! oh ... man, my queen :(("
GuestKWRL(U) says: HAHA... pathetic
GuestKWRL(U) says: "where did my queen go ?!?!!? ohhh !?!?"
Player "SuicideBeast" is censoring you.
GuestGHPS(U) says: checkmate
GuestGHPS(U) says: Qxg2#
GuestGHPS(U) says: by moving your knight you opened up my bishop's fierce attack to your g2 square, and I can use this immediately with the crushing Qxg2#, delivering checkmate at once.
GuestGHPS(U) says: good game.
GuestBTTS(U) says: lol
GuestBTTS(U) says: play slower next time, maybe you'll actually lose on time
GuestLWDD(U) says: i gotta say, i'm impressed
GuestLWDD(U) says: how you start up nice, and then you sink
GuestLWDD(U) says: i thought you'd hit bottom at some point, but the game apparently finished way too early
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La gloire de 1993, à 21 ans, les années de misère, [...]
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Repêché en 1989, le défenseur se taillait une place dans l'équipe à 20 ans seulement.
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Repêché en 1989, le défenseur se taillait une place dans l'équipe à 20 ans seulement.
jeudi 24 septembre 2009
Engin d'échecs - temps de réflexion
À deux reprises récemment j'ai testé le talent de deux engins d'échecs que j'utilise pour trouver des coups "évidents" (notez les guillemets).
En fait, la capacité de calculs des ordinateurs n'est jamais mise en doute quand vient le temps de jouer aux échecs: ils ont un avantage indéniable. Par contre, la question est vraiment la suivante: quoi calculer?
Le commun des mortels s'attendraient sûrement à ce que la question soit difficile à résoudre en termes de programmation, mais facilement résolue anyway; il y a sûrement des manières de faire comprendre à l'ordinateur qu'il y a des patterns à reconnaître, question de rapidement mettre de côté des coups qui semblent mauvais. C'est d'ailleurs comme ça que les engins s'en viennent de plus en plus (vs. le calcul brut -- voir Computer_chess#Search_techniques).
Dans les derniers jours, j'ai réussi à trouver des "failles" dans deux engins que j'utilise, l'un gratuit (Toga II) l'autre commercial (The King, l'engin de Chessmaster).
Dans les deux parties, ni l'un ni l'autre des engins n'a été en mesure de voir "de manière prompte" le coup relativement évident à jouer.
Partie 1: il s'agit d'une partie par correspondance entre deux personnes dont les noms ne me disent rien. Voici la position cruciale, obtenue après 8. ... Bh5.

N'importe qui moyennement aventurier prendrait la peine de regarder le coup Nxe5. C'est un sacrifice, qui donne "évidemment" l'opportunité aux Noirs de jouer Bxd1 (capturer la dame avec le fou). En fait, si on calcule rapidement, il s'agit d'un excellent coup. Et c'est assez facile à calculer, parce que on peut forcer les trois ou quatre prochains coups des Noirs, et le roi devient extrêmement exposé au centre. Rendu là, on n'a pas vraiment besoin d'être exact: si le roi est au centre et que toutes nos pièces mineures (fous et cavaliers) sont bien placées, il "faut" qu'il y ait quelque chose. Dans cette situation, il y a effectivement quelque chose, et les Blancs ont gagné sans trop de difficulté. Voici la position obtenue après le 14ème coup des Blancs. Les Noirs ont le trait:

Pensez comme vous voulez, vous vous rendrez bien compte que la position est très difficile à jouer pour les Noirs.
Revenons à la position critique (première image). Dans cette position, mon engin gratuit -- Toga II -- refuse catégoriquement de voir Nxe5. Or, si on lui impose le coup, c'est-à-dire si on lui demande d'évaluer la position une fois le coup joué, son évaluation de la position devient extrêmement favorable aux Blancs, et ce dans une mesure beaucoup plus grande que tous les autres coups proposés auparavant. C'est donc dire que l'engin reconnaît un fort avantage aux Blancs, et ce en dépit du fait qu'il eût rejeté ce coup juste avant.
S'il est capable de voir une fois le coup joué que c'est un bon coup, il faut penser qu'il serait capable de le voir avant qu'il soit joué, moyennant un certain coût en temps. Quel est ce coût? Je ne sais pas. Après 7 ou 8 minutes d'attente, et toujours aucun signe de vie, je me suis tanné.
Toga II a donc été incapable d'analyser ce coup d'une manière ponctuelle, tandis que n'importe qui initié aux échecs aurait pris la peine de regarder le coup, et aurait possiblement rapidement conclu qu'il s'agissait d'un bon coup, ou à tout le moins intéressant.
Deuxième partie: jouée avant-hier entre Kasparov et Karpov à Valencia (Espagne). C'était une partie relativement rapide (25 minutes pour la partie par côté, plus 5 secondes d'incrémentation par coup). Karpov a joué un coup qui a affaibli la protection d'une case, et Kasparov s'est empressé d'en profiter en sacrifiant une pièce. Voici la position avant le sacrifice:

Kasparov a donc joué le (très?) évident Nf6+!. Karpov a essentiellement deux choix: l'un ouvre complètement son roi et permet une attaque imparable à Kasparov, tandis que l'autre donne l'opportunité à Kasparov de... le mater. En somme, Kasparov a un avantage décisif après ce sacrifice.
J'ai fait le test, cette fois avec The King. Étant donné que The King est meilleur que Toga II (et il est commercial, je vous rappelle), je me suis dit qu'il verrait le coup sans problème. D'ailleurs, comme dans la première situation, j'ai imposé le coup Nf6+ à l'engin. Une fois imposé, il n'avait aucune difficulté à reconnaître que les Blancs avaient un très grand avantage comparé à la position précédente (avant Nf6+). Or, si on ne lui impose pas le coup, il ne le voit pas.
Une fois l'attaque bien entamée, voilà à quoi ça ressemble:

Contrairement à la première situation, j'ai décidé d'attendre que The King voie le coup. "Combien de temps aurai-je à attendre?", me demandai-je en me disant que ce serait une ou deux minutes maximum.
J'ai attendu 11 minutes et 23 secondes. Ça a pris au-delà de 11 minutes à Chessmaster pour voir que Nf6+ était le meilleur coup à jouer dans la position.
Et bref, c'est là où je veux en venir. Le calcul brut, quoique très utile, ne permet définitivement pas à lui seul de jouer contre les meilleurs au monde. En effet, ni Toga II (engin gratuit), ni The King (qui est un engin relativement respectable) n'ont été en mesure de voir les tactiques de manière rapide, et ce en dépit de leur "évidence" (on ne peut pas dire, en tant qu'humain, vraiment rapidement si un coup est bon ou pas... mais on peut définitivement reconnaître qu'un coup vaut la peine d'être analysé, contrairement à mes amis en silicone).
Par contre, n'ayez crainte: les améliorations sont telles que les meilleurs ordinateurs actuels peuvent bel et bien s'imposer sur la scène internationale. Par exemple, dans la première situation (où Toga II n'a pas réussi à trouver la solution dans un temps raisonnable imparti), le meilleur engin actuel au monde -- Rybka -- est en mesure de voir la capture du pion à l'aide du cavalier à l'intérieur d'une quinzaine de secondes sur un ordinateur personnel (selon un "spectateur" sur chessgames.com).
Conclusion: Le calcul brut n'est pas tout ce dont un bon joueur d'échecs a besoin. Entre autres, la reconnaissance de patterns est essentielle.
En fait, la capacité de calculs des ordinateurs n'est jamais mise en doute quand vient le temps de jouer aux échecs: ils ont un avantage indéniable. Par contre, la question est vraiment la suivante: quoi calculer?
Le commun des mortels s'attendraient sûrement à ce que la question soit difficile à résoudre en termes de programmation, mais facilement résolue anyway; il y a sûrement des manières de faire comprendre à l'ordinateur qu'il y a des patterns à reconnaître, question de rapidement mettre de côté des coups qui semblent mauvais. C'est d'ailleurs comme ça que les engins s'en viennent de plus en plus (vs. le calcul brut -- voir Computer_chess#Search_techniques).
Dans les derniers jours, j'ai réussi à trouver des "failles" dans deux engins que j'utilise, l'un gratuit (Toga II) l'autre commercial (The King, l'engin de Chessmaster).
Dans les deux parties, ni l'un ni l'autre des engins n'a été en mesure de voir "de manière prompte" le coup relativement évident à jouer.
Partie 1: il s'agit d'une partie par correspondance entre deux personnes dont les noms ne me disent rien. Voici la position cruciale, obtenue après 8. ... Bh5.

N'importe qui moyennement aventurier prendrait la peine de regarder le coup Nxe5. C'est un sacrifice, qui donne "évidemment" l'opportunité aux Noirs de jouer Bxd1 (capturer la dame avec le fou). En fait, si on calcule rapidement, il s'agit d'un excellent coup. Et c'est assez facile à calculer, parce que on peut forcer les trois ou quatre prochains coups des Noirs, et le roi devient extrêmement exposé au centre. Rendu là, on n'a pas vraiment besoin d'être exact: si le roi est au centre et que toutes nos pièces mineures (fous et cavaliers) sont bien placées, il "faut" qu'il y ait quelque chose. Dans cette situation, il y a effectivement quelque chose, et les Blancs ont gagné sans trop de difficulté. Voici la position obtenue après le 14ème coup des Blancs. Les Noirs ont le trait:

Pensez comme vous voulez, vous vous rendrez bien compte que la position est très difficile à jouer pour les Noirs.
Revenons à la position critique (première image). Dans cette position, mon engin gratuit -- Toga II -- refuse catégoriquement de voir Nxe5. Or, si on lui impose le coup, c'est-à-dire si on lui demande d'évaluer la position une fois le coup joué, son évaluation de la position devient extrêmement favorable aux Blancs, et ce dans une mesure beaucoup plus grande que tous les autres coups proposés auparavant. C'est donc dire que l'engin reconnaît un fort avantage aux Blancs, et ce en dépit du fait qu'il eût rejeté ce coup juste avant.
S'il est capable de voir une fois le coup joué que c'est un bon coup, il faut penser qu'il serait capable de le voir avant qu'il soit joué, moyennant un certain coût en temps. Quel est ce coût? Je ne sais pas. Après 7 ou 8 minutes d'attente, et toujours aucun signe de vie, je me suis tanné.
Toga II a donc été incapable d'analyser ce coup d'une manière ponctuelle, tandis que n'importe qui initié aux échecs aurait pris la peine de regarder le coup, et aurait possiblement rapidement conclu qu'il s'agissait d'un bon coup, ou à tout le moins intéressant.
Deuxième partie: jouée avant-hier entre Kasparov et Karpov à Valencia (Espagne). C'était une partie relativement rapide (25 minutes pour la partie par côté, plus 5 secondes d'incrémentation par coup). Karpov a joué un coup qui a affaibli la protection d'une case, et Kasparov s'est empressé d'en profiter en sacrifiant une pièce. Voici la position avant le sacrifice:

Kasparov a donc joué le (très?) évident Nf6+!. Karpov a essentiellement deux choix: l'un ouvre complètement son roi et permet une attaque imparable à Kasparov, tandis que l'autre donne l'opportunité à Kasparov de... le mater. En somme, Kasparov a un avantage décisif après ce sacrifice.
J'ai fait le test, cette fois avec The King. Étant donné que The King est meilleur que Toga II (et il est commercial, je vous rappelle), je me suis dit qu'il verrait le coup sans problème. D'ailleurs, comme dans la première situation, j'ai imposé le coup Nf6+ à l'engin. Une fois imposé, il n'avait aucune difficulté à reconnaître que les Blancs avaient un très grand avantage comparé à la position précédente (avant Nf6+). Or, si on ne lui impose pas le coup, il ne le voit pas.
Une fois l'attaque bien entamée, voilà à quoi ça ressemble:

Contrairement à la première situation, j'ai décidé d'attendre que The King voie le coup. "Combien de temps aurai-je à attendre?", me demandai-je en me disant que ce serait une ou deux minutes maximum.
J'ai attendu 11 minutes et 23 secondes. Ça a pris au-delà de 11 minutes à Chessmaster pour voir que Nf6+ était le meilleur coup à jouer dans la position.
Et bref, c'est là où je veux en venir. Le calcul brut, quoique très utile, ne permet définitivement pas à lui seul de jouer contre les meilleurs au monde. En effet, ni Toga II (engin gratuit), ni The King (qui est un engin relativement respectable) n'ont été en mesure de voir les tactiques de manière rapide, et ce en dépit de leur "évidence" (on ne peut pas dire, en tant qu'humain, vraiment rapidement si un coup est bon ou pas... mais on peut définitivement reconnaître qu'un coup vaut la peine d'être analysé, contrairement à mes amis en silicone).
Par contre, n'ayez crainte: les améliorations sont telles que les meilleurs ordinateurs actuels peuvent bel et bien s'imposer sur la scène internationale. Par exemple, dans la première situation (où Toga II n'a pas réussi à trouver la solution dans un temps raisonnable imparti), le meilleur engin actuel au monde -- Rybka -- est en mesure de voir la capture du pion à l'aide du cavalier à l'intérieur d'une quinzaine de secondes sur un ordinateur personnel (selon un "spectateur" sur chessgames.com).
Conclusion: Le calcul brut n'est pas tout ce dont un bon joueur d'échecs a besoin. Entre autres, la reconnaissance de patterns est essentielle.
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